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Web of Lie is our Lagoon catamaran. Specifically, she's a Lagoon 42 catamaran, referred to as a Lagoon 42 TPI (not a Lagoon 420). She is the earlier version of the Lagoon 42, built in 1992 by the famed yacht yard Tillotson Pearson, Inc. She is the highly desireable owner's version of the boat, and was never in charter. This catamaran for sale is available now. It's actually for sale by owner for the time being, until it goes into a more conventional brokerage situation. Catamaran for sale by owner, just as yacht for sale by owner is becoming a more and more common thing now that we have the internet to help us find boats. In our case, we have kept the catamaran for sale by owner status because we are still cruising her in the Caribbean island region. Once we're done, our Lagoon catamaran may be taken to Florida or left in the Caribbean in the hands of a brokerage.
ABOUT WEB OF LIES

 

 

BIOBIO

This yacht is the owner’s version of the highly desirable and sought after Tillitson Pearson Lagoon 42 catamaran.  Referred to as the Lagoon 42 TPI, she should not be confused with the more recent Lagoon 420 catamaran. Built to yacht grade specifications by Tillotson Pearson, this catamaran has been meticulously maintained and upgraded throughout her life.  She has never been chartered, is in exceptional condition and is the cleanest Lagoon 42 available. She also has the highly desireable V drive engines, not sail drives.

We bought Web of Lies in April 2007 with the intent of cruising the Caribbean for one year.  We looked at a lot of boats before deciding on her, and after living aboard and cruising for the last six months, we know we made the right choice. We knew that at the end of the year our Lagoon 42 TPI would be for sale again.

If your goal is cruising the Caribbean (or elsewhere) this really is a turn-key boat.  She  is ready to cruise and requires nothing more than your personal effects.  We’re returning to California after our catamaran is sold, so everything now on the boat, including kitchen equipment, linens, spares, toys, etc.  is included in the purchase price.

She was carefully selected to allow for “off the grid” cruising; eight solar panels and a 30 gallon per hour water maker allow her to stay off the dock for as long as you desire.    

We are currently on board as our year comes to an end,  but will accommodate seriously interested buyers by arranging viewings at mutually convenient locations in the Caribbean.  If you are considering a cruising catamaran in this size range you have to give this one a look.

FAQ's

1. WHY DID YOU BUILD THIS WEBSITE?

2.WHY ARE YOU SELLING WEB OF LIES?

3. WHAT'S THE PRICE?

4. HOW DOES THE PRICE COMPARE TO OTHER BOATS?

5. WEB OF LIES WAS BUILT IN 1992. WHY DIDNíT YOU GET A NEWER BOAT?

6. WHY SHOULD I CONSIDER WEB OF LIES OVER OTHER BOATS?

7. WHAT DO YOU LIKE BEST ABOUT WEB OF LIES?

8.WHAT UPGRADES HAVE YOU DONE TO WEB OF LIES?

9. HOW CAN I SEE WEB OF LIES? - WHY ST. MAARTEN?

10. WHAT'S WITH THE NAME "WEB OF LIES"?

 

1. WHY THE WEBSITE? - We did a lot of research before we bought W.O.L.  We found the standard process of buying a boat to be a bit difficult, especially from far away.  It was difficult to connect directly with the owner of the boat in order to get specific questions answered.  Our goal in producing this site was to allow prospective buyers to get as much information, in as much detail as possible so thta they can decide in advance if the boat is what they are looking for.  We also hope to share some of what we learned from our research and from living on the boat for an extended period.

2. WHY SELL? - Our plan always was to take a one year vacation cruising the Caribbean. We bought the boat knowing that we would sell her at the end of the year. Sadly, that time is quickly approaching, so Web of Lies is now on the block.

3. PRICE - We've done our research, and we are pricing Web of Lies very competitively so that she sells quickly. If you are seriously interested in purchasing a yacht (no tire kickers, please!! ) please go to the contact page and drop us an e-mail request. IMPORTANT - before we can quote price, we need to know how you found out about Web of Lies. Please be specific (web site name, forum, etc. ) We look forward to hearing from you.

4. COMPS - We've done our research and Web of Lies compares very favorably to other boats in her class. She is currently the lowest priced Lagoon 42 TPI on the market, yet she is the owner version and she is in much better shape than most of the others. When you look at other brands of cats in the size range, Web of Lies remains a real bargain. Check the comps out yourself on yachtworld.com and you will see that this is no idle claim. Our motivation is simple. We are returning to California soon, and it's an expensive and difficult to maintain the boat from such a long distance. We figure if we price it right then we can avoid the expensive headache of long distance ownership.

5. WHY NOT A NEWER BOAT? - When we set out to find a boat, we initially limited our choices to boats 10 years old or newer, in fact, we even had a deposit on a 2000 Lagoon 38. But when we learned about the Lagoon 42 TPI we changed our minds. 

The boat was built by Tillotson Pearson, so her construction was well above the standards for newer boats.  She’s been around for fifteen years without any structural problems and she’s still as sound today as when she was built.  That says a lot.

Newer production boat design is highly influenced by the needs of the charter companies.  The competition is cutthroat, and there is no way that a boat builder could cost effectively build a boat to the same standards as Web of Lies and remain competitive. Web of Lies was made before this trend took hold.

Although Web of Lies was a "production" boat back when she was built, the construction was contracted out to Tillotson Pearson, well known for yacht grade building standards, and the quantity of boats produced was small compared to what is done today. If you wanted to find a newer yacht built to the same standards as Web of Lies, you would have to find a custom built boat, which would cost magnitudes more than our asking price.

Another consideration was that we knew that we needed to sell the boat within a year, so we didn’t want to lose a lot of value to depreciation.  This boat is going to hold its value much better than a newer boat.

Repair and maintenance – Since we only had a year, we didn’t want to spend our time fixing things.  Intuitively, a newer boat should have less problems, but we learned that this isn’t necessarily true.  On this boat, if it’s going to  fail, it probably already has.  The equipment on this boat has withstood the test of time.

 

6. WHY BUY WEB OF LIES? - This is exactly the boat that I was looking for when I was buying a boat.  When I bought it, the boat was the best that I could find.  The first order of business was to correct anything that wasn’t working right and set up a regular maintenance schedule.  We’ve also added a few key upgrades, like chart plotter and new mainsail.  The boat is even better now than when we bought it. 

Another key feature is that the boat has everything you need to go cruising right away.  All that stuff, big and small items, that collectively adds up to a big cash outlay is already there.  So often boats are sold to finance the purchase of a new boat, and as such, . In this situation, everything that isn’t bolted down is cherry picked and transferred to the new boat.  That’s not the case with Web of Lies…we’re not getting a new boat so everything stays put and is included in the price of the boat. I can't emphasize enough just how much extra stuff is on this boat...everything from B&G instrumentation and auto pilot to half a dozen pairs of masks, fins and snorkels. And spare parts and supplies......there's so much stuff...I could go on and on!

7. BEST FEATURES - Tough question…there are lots of things.  If you’re so inclined, check out the Specifications section of this site…it gives lots and lots of information…maybe more than you want or need!  To keep this section brief, we’ll limit this answer to the top ten things we like about Web of Lies.

8. ADDITIONS / IMPROVEMENTS - We didn't have to add too much stuff to Web of Lies..it pretty much had everything already. But that which we did add is make a big difference. The first thing the boat needed was a new mainsail. This was a spendy piece of canvas, but the boat now sails much better than before, especially to weather. We chose Doyle sails in Tortola to build the sail for us. We also replaced all the battens at the same time. Another big addition was the chart plotter. If you've ever sailed with one, you know just how wonderful these devices are. We placed it right at the helm, and the peace of mind that it affords, especially in reef strewn areas, is worth much more than the cost.

While we didn't invest a ton of money into new devices, we did spend a lot of time, effort, and money on getting the boat "right". Those that know me can verify that I'm a kinda fussy customer, and I like my stuff just so. It bugs the crap out of me when something isn't working the way it's supposed to, or if you can't rely on it every time, or if it looks wrong or unmaintained. It also irks me to fix the same thing more than once, mostly because I don't actually like to fix things. As such, we've spent the better part of a year "cleaning up" and "correcting" things that don't live up to my (admittedly fussy) standards. For example, the varnish on the salon table was pretty ragged. We could have sanded and filled the imperfections and been done with it. But instead, we stripped the table to bare wood, hand sanded it to perfection, bought the finest two part varnish, and refinished it. Or the work room - the walls were unfinished and ugly, so we bought some nice, textured wallpaper and installed it. For a mechanical example, take the engine kill switch. It's cable actuated. The end terminals were a bit rusty and the cable was more difficult to pull than it should have been. Mind you, it functioned fine. So the terminals were removed, the cable removed from the housing, all the rust was removed, the cable and hardware were properly cleaned and lubricated and now it's a fingertip operation. But wait, there's more..... an item was added to the maintenance schedule that the linkage be lubricated each month, so after several months that stupid little cable control still works like new.

Okay, it's a bit anal, I'll admit, but that's just my nature, and it's been applied to this boat for almost a year. If you want, you can have a copy of the maintenance schedule, which has weekly, bi-weekly, monthly, semi-annual and annual items. We've found that a little preventative maintance goes a long way on a boat, which suits me fine since, as I said, I don't like to fix stuff.

But I digress....what I set out to explain was that when you buy a used boat, you inherit the conditions maintained by the prior owner. Some are obvious, some are not. So the more fussy the prior owner, the better. So while we've added a few choice tidbits here and there, the real value is in how we've kept or restored everything to meet our standards.

9. TO VIEW WEB OF LIES - We've located the boat in one of the best marinas in St. Maarten (Caribbean). We debated long and hard whether we sell the boat in St. Maarten, or take it to Fort Lauderdale, Florida, where there's a large yacht sales industry. It was a tough decision, but St. Maarten made sense. We learned that most boats sold in Ft. Lauderdale don't stay there...most wind out being sailed back to the Caribbean. Sailing from Florida to the Virgin Islands is over a thousand miles upwind....not a pleasant trip. So by buying the boat here, the new owner can avoid that hassle and start their adventures here, where the sailing is easy and the islands are all within sight of each other. We also did our research and found that St. Maarten has the largest (and busiest) airport in the Caribbean, so flights here are easy to get and economical. Even Jet Blue opened a direct flight from New York City to St. Maarten. Finally, St. Maarten is a direct flight from Europe. With the dollar / Euro exchange rate, this boat becomes quite attractive to those from across the pond. Finally, while the boat is being marketed, we wanted to keep her in an area where we like to sail, and St. Maarten is the first stop in your trip down the Caribbean chain. It's strategic location also makes it possible for us to rendezvous with seriously interested potential buyers. All we ask is that you are respectfully serious about buying her before we make a long sea passage. The best way to contact us is via e-mail, but you can also leave voice mail messages via telephone. Please see the information on our contact page for the best way to get hold of us.

10. THE NAME OF THE YACHT - WEB OF LIES - An interesting question that we keep getting on the e-mail inquires...okay, I admit, probably not the best choice of names when trying to sell a boat, but we were not thinking about that at the time that we named her. Here's the short story. Elisa and I both worked for the same company (and the same boss). We were secretly dating for over a year, and while it should have been obvious to everyone, amazingly, no one had figured it out. Of course we had friends outside of work that knew about us, but we had to caution them to keep it quiet if any of our work associates was around, thus they were woven into the "web of lies". Fast forward a few months, and we both quit our jobs at the same time, giving the same reason..that we were buying a boat to sail the Caribbean for a year. I told him first, followed by Elisa about a week later. Amazingly, he responded to her with, "Oh really, that sounds just like Brad's reason for leaving!". Well, they finally figured it out, and now, everyone is included in the "web of lies". Whenever we come to a new anchorage we get a lot of fun comments about the name of the boat, followed by questions. Just for fun, we have concocted a few different responses. Our favorite is that we named her after the broker that sold her to us. Our next favorite is that we are both fishermen (we're not - but everyone knows how fishermen exaggerate), and finally, we tell them that we named it that because we're both lawyers (we're not).

TOP 10 FEATURES OF WEB OF LIES (in no particular order)

1.       Design, construction and styling – Newer production boats (and many custom boats), must be competitively priced, and compromises for economics must be made.  As a result, newer boats are not built to the same standard as Web of Lies.  Fit, finish, materials, design…we did our research and were duly impressed by the yacht grade construction and materials of this boat versus more contemporary offerings.

As to styling, looks certainly are subjective, but we always get lots of compliments on the lines of Web of Lies.

2.       "Off the grid" living – Two things we don't like- 1. Going to the dock to tank up on water....and...2. Running the engines to charge batteries or cool the fridge. Web of Lies has the necessary systems to keep these two ugly little facts of cruising life from happening.

For water, there's the engine driven water maker. It puts out a lot of pure, reverse osmossis water in a short amount of time. So when we're island hopping, we make our water on the fly. We never have to go to the dock to get water (which is often of dubious quality anyway), and we don't have to stingy on showers or other water usage. The only reason we ever dock Web of Lies is to get diesel, which is a very rare occurrence.

The other little ugly fact of cruising life is the need to run the engine every single day to charge the batteries and / or cool the fridge. How annoying is that...to you and your neighbors? Web of Lies never has to go through this irksome ritual..she has eight solar panels that supply more than enough energy to the two air cooled 12 volt DC refrigerator / freezer compressors. So the serenity of life on anchor is presevered!

3.       Cockpit – Life in the Caribbean means spending lots of time in the cockpit, either lounging or entertaining.  Web of Lies has a massive cockpit – plenty of room for lounging and entertaining.  The hard top bimini was fantastic addition which makes the cockpit even better. more info (scroll down after clicking)

4.       Galley – Like the cockpit, lots of time is spent in the galley.  The galley on  WOL is huge compared to most cats in this size range.  Once you’ve lived on a boat, you’ll grow to appreciate the expansive counterspace and tons of useful storage. more info.

5.       Custom mesh trampolines / custom canvas sunshade - One of the nicest places to hang out is on the trampolines. They're comfortable and open to the tropical breezes. Web of Lies has an expensive,m tight "basket weave" fabric for the trampolines, which are much more comfortable to walk, sit and lay on than conventional "netting" type trampolines. They are well ventilated, so they let the air flow from underneath, keeping you comfortable on even the warmest days. To protect you from the tropical sun there's a custom made canvas sunshade that "inflates" in the breeze. It's quick and easy to set up or take down. With our padded ratcheting seatbacks and the sun shade deployed, the trampolines are our favorite place to kick it during the day.

6.       Ventilation and lighting - This is another thing you can't appreciate unless you've spent considerable time on a boat. Web of Lies has lots and lots of ventilation hatches, and, more importantly, they are placed where they function well. There are four large deck hatches in the ceiling and five port holes in the sides of each hull. They let in plenty of light and plenty of air. It's an expensive addition to any boat, but it makes all the difference in the world. For more information scroll down to the "ventilation" description in the Stateroom section.

There are also five ventilation portholes in each hull. Not only do these provideater maker  - We love the fact that we rarely need to go to the dock for anything except fuel.  The 28 gallon per hour water maker means that tanking up at the dock is never necessary.  Also, the reverse osmosis water is always clean and safe.  You can never be sure of the quality of the water you get from shore, so we always make our own. The tanks have not had anything in them except for pure reverse osmossis water.

7.       Fully battened mainsail with stack pack / furling self tacking jib – Fact of life in the Caribbean – squalls come and go.  Being able to quickly reef or drop the sails is important.  Having an efficient system that allows two people to cruise in comfort and safety is something we’ve grown to truly appreciate.  Also, so many boats don’t bother to raise their sails for short cruises.  Bottom line ~ our systems make it  easy to hoist, lower, cover and furl the sails, so we don’t hesitate to sail, even on short hops.  It is, after all, a sailboat. The mainsail is brand new, efficient, and easily managed; the stack pack is almost new and makes stowing the sail quick and painless, the jib is self tacking (on a Harken track) and easy to manage and furl.

8.       Owner’s version / utility room – This owner’s version has some unique features not found on standard Lagoon 42 TPIs. For starters, there's a unique utility / work room that really comes in handy.  This was custom built for Web of Lies by Hutchinsons Yachts. When we got the boat, we thought that it wasn’t really a good space utilization, but after living on the boat we learned that the room is a great addition to the boat.  Pantry storage and usable workspace are more important than we first realized. In addition to this, the owner's version has the massive galley, additional storage, more bookcases, a better salon layout, etc. There are other custom built in features, such as bookcases in salon and cabins that we've grown to appreciate and that set Web of Lies apart from lesser boats.

9.       Storage – Web of Lies really shines in this department.  All of the experienced cruisers told us that storage was important – and thankfully we listened.  There is so much cabinet, drawer, shelf and cupboard storage on this boat that you can keep everything you need conveniently close without the boat ever looking cluttered.  For everything else, there is an amazing amount of hidden storage under benches, behind settees, etc. 

10. Engine rooms – I hate working on engines, but it’s a fact of life on a boat…any boat.  This boat has devoted a ton of space to the engine rooms so you can easily access the engine from all sides.  When I see owners of other boats doing contortions in tiny spaces just to change an oil filter I become even more grateful for the thoughtful design of our engine rooms.

Honorable mention - The Caribe dinghy and Tohatsu outboard engine - You want things light on a cat, and the 10 foot Caribe dinghy is large enough to do the job but small enough to remain light. The Tohatsu 2 stroke 9.8hp motor easily gets two people up on a plane yet is also one of the lightest motors in its class. We hoist the dinghy every night onto the davits, so we really appreciate the light weight.

When cruising, your dinghy is your lifeline - your transportation to and from shore. We never worry about the dinghy - it holds air, is strong and durable, performs well in all conditions, and is well protected by the canvas cover. The Tohatsu outboard always starts first pull, has plenty of power and requires almost no maintenance. The dinghy / outboard combo warrants honorable mention because they always deliver and never cause us a moment of concern. We knew we’d have t

sell her near the end of our cruise.  Now it’s time to (sniff, sniff), get down to it.

REVIEWS

Reviewing the Lagoon 42
By Charles E. Kanter
The Lagoon 42 was introduced in 1991 at the Annapolis boat show. No question, it made a big hit and was the surprise darling upstart of the show. I climbed all over it, poked around, peered into the dark recesses of bilges and virtually inaccessible compartments, and could find only one major drawback — the boat had no rubrails. Now you may think I have a rub-rail fetish, but to prove my point about their necessity, this boat had scratches on the sides that may not have happened had there been proper rubrails. Imagine, the very first of the breed ever shown, in all her beauty, had big scratches down the sides that most likely could have been avoided with proper rub rails
(note - Web of Lies has full length rub rails).

As the years ticked by, I watched several of these boats under sail in various charter operations. I was not impressed by their performance. However, I had to give them the benefit of the doubt because, after all, they were operated by charter people. I did insurance surveys on several boats, but that did not really let me get to know the boats in depth.

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My personal testing philosophy is to test-sail a boat the way it would most likely be sailed in real life. I attempt to avoid the total stripped-out ultra-light mode that most demonstrations entail. Except the ultra-committed racers, few boats ever sail with minimum weight.

In November of 1999 I was engaged to do a pre-purchase survey and sea trials. Finally I had my opportunity to really get into the nitty-gritty. As it turned out, I surveyed that boat several additional times and gave it extensive sea trials in order to use-test the added equipment.

Plunging out in the Atlantic Ocean through Port Everglades Inlet at Fort Lauderdale, FL, into six to eight-foot seas and 30-knot winds is not for the faint-hearted. My intrepid crew, consisting of the owners and a couple of wanna-bes, made the trip. It was my second sea trial on this particular vessel. They had just completed an extensive refit and equipment installation, and sea trials were definitely in order...the tougher the better.

This is one sea-kindly boat. No number of tacks, jibes, rough conditions or deliberate attempts could make this boat slam its bridgedeck. A single reef in the main and a full jib gave us good speed and perfect control. No question about it, this is a boat in which you can feel safe, secure and comfortable anywhere in the world. We never missed a tack and found that the boat would tack with main alone, even with a reef in it. Despite the fact that the boat has keels rather than daggerboards, it points quite nicely. We had no trouble tacking through 90 degrees, and holding 35 degrees, apparent even in those rough and tumble conditions.

What I do not like about the boat, a complaint I have with several of the French boats, is that too much is sacrificed for style alone. The extremely sloped cabin face turns the salon into a hot house. Outside window covers are necessary to keep the sun out. When you cover the windows, you lose one of the greatest catamaran attributes—panoramic visibility. The extreme slope also makes it difficult to get up on the top deck and causes the loss of considerable interior space. The newer Lagoon series have a more vertical look.

The Jeanneau Lagoon 42 was built by Tillotson-Pearson in Rhode Island. It is a bluewater boat with twin diesel auxiliary engines and a fractional sloop rig. It is a beautiful vessel with exceptionally fair lines. It has excellent deck access and a secure trampoline area. The forward crossbeam appears to be well-made. The dinghy davits are massively strong. It has a four-cabin two-head arrangement with ample room. It has a modest but adequate sized galley-down layout. Both the galley and the typical horseshoe-shaped salon are smallish by contemporary standards. Visibility from the interior is good without the exterior curtains.

One of the nicest things about this boat is the engine room access from the stern steps. This puts the engines completely outside the accommodation. Accessories such as watermakers and generators fit securely in the huge, airy, accessible engine rooms.

These are not the easiest boats to anchor but overall are not bad. Anchors can be stored in the bow rollers, and the windlass is back by the mast. This arrangement works well in benign weather. However, when the weather gets rough, or if you are in a marginal anchorage, it is not a simple task to fix a bridle or a snubber, and rigging a Bahamian moor is particularly difficult.

The fractional sloop rig with a moderate roach mainsail has both advantages and drawbacks. Mainsails of this type are heavy and hard to raise. Having a full roach with battens pressing inward makes things even more difficult. But from an ease of sailing and performance view, it is usually worth the effort.

The price history of these vessels is interesting, and those looking for preowned boats have an expanding market. Boats are selling for as low as 50% of their original cost. They started out in 1991 in the $300,000 range with sails and engines, and now you can see them offered at competitive prices. Use caution, however, as many of the low-price boats are ex-charter boats needing major refit.

Another advantage to these boats is that even though they are French boats, they were built in the United States by Tillotson/Pearson; thhus, they are American-made boats and not subject to the restrictions on foreign boats covered by the infamous Jones act.

 

Multihull Maven:

Lagoon 42

Lagoon 42
Description:
First introduced in 1991, the Lagoon 42 is a boat of the style, build and layout quality that accelerated the popularity of the cruising catamaran in the USA. The Lagoon 42s were built by TPI with their state of the art resin infusion process, and designed by the innovative French naval architects Marc Van Peteghem and Vincent Lauriot Prevost. The optimised hull construction using balsa and vinyl ester resin saves weight, which improves performance and sea-keeping.
With striking good looks the catamaran received a lot of attention at her introduction to the market. Accentuated curves of the bridgedeck cabin give the design panache as well as keeping the windage low and allowing her to point higher when close hauled.
As planned, many Lagoon 42s were sold into the charter market, yet the boat is much more than just a party platform. She is a thorough blue water cruiser with excellent seakeeping, handles easily, points well and can cruise at high average speeds in comfort.
Awarded Sailing Multihull and overall Boat of the Year 1991 by Sailing World.

 

 

 
 
 
 
Web of Lies - Lagoon 42 TPI
 
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Sunset at anchor on Web of Lies
 
New chart plotter installed at helm station
New mainsail being fitted 6/07
 
Clean lines always draw compliments
Spacious cockpit with double fold down table
Owner version galley is large and highly functional for extended cruising or living aboard
Custom bookshelf - another unique feature
Lots of room and access in the engine rooms
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Our Lagoon 42 catamaran is now for sale
Another crummy evening
 
New custom fabricated panels for navigation station
 
water
Plenty of clean, pure reverse osmossis water is always on tap
Eight solar panels take care of electrical requirements
Custom sunshade make the trampolines a great place to lounge
 
Lots of storage thoughout the boat
 
The Caribe dinghy and Tohatsu outboard always deliver....always